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Phiplosphers' comparison : State of nature

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  • Philosopher Jean-Jacques Rousseau and John Locke
  • Yes, are you John Locke? I've read some of your works and it was amazing!
  • Oh ! I believe you are Rousseau , one of the most famous philosphers of this time, right?
  • John Locke, an English philosopher, physician, commonly known as "Father of Liberalism"
  •  As I mentioned in the "Second Treatise on Civil Government", I believe that state of nature is a state of freedom, liberty, and equality. Men have the rights do what they want within the boundaries of the law of nature, as they see it appropriate. However, it is chaotic and still need a civil to solve and conflicts.
  • Actually, I'm pretty agreed with your Social Contract idea . But more than that, it makes me curious, how do you think about the state of nature?
  • Similarities and differences between Locke and Rousseau ' ideas
  • Well I agree with you that the state of nature is a state of and men are equal to each other. The state of nature is morally neutral and peaceful, people act to fullfill their basic needs due to their self-maintainance
  • However, I don't think civilization is good! Human were born in a blank slate, and civilizatiion is what corrupts us. For me,the state of nature could only refer to a primal state before , so men in the state of nature do not have social traits such as envy, pride, or fear. People do not know each other enough to come into conflcts.
  • The differences between Rousseau and Hobbes' ideas about state of nature
  • No, no, no. A state of nature is a state of WAR, absolutely no morality exists! Men are selfish and savage, then how can laws and rules be established? I don't think that men are free like what you said. People in the state of nature are self-interest and they do not trust each other. Everyday they live in fear of betrayal and being harmed. So, men should leave the state of nature to enter the civil .
  • Hmm..This man should be crazy....
  • .........
  • Thomas Hobbes, one of the modern philosophers at this time with his work "Leviathan"
  • I'm Thomas Hobbes, just like you, I'm a philosopher. We are both philosphers, but unlike you, I can't think what's good about state of nature.
  • The end
  • Hmm, good bye and never see you again, Thomas Hobbes.
  • HEY, WHO ARE YOU???
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